How to ID 1967 Mustang Fastback Fold Down Seats

 

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67 fold down seats are nearly identical to 66 with the exception of having two latches and the latch guides were metal and mount with 3 screws.  For review, or in case you did not look at the 66 page, the 67 seat has oval seat support plates on the rear panel, and the front panel has a seat support bumper that looks like a small rubber foot.

Of note about 67 fastbacks is that only 50% of them came with a fold down seat as an option.  Apparently Ford began cutting costs and what was formerly a standard feature became an option you had to pay extra for.  If you are working on a 67 fastback without a fold down seat, you are in luck, as there are still plenty of them out there you can use that actually came from a 67 car, you can use some early 68 seats, and you can use other year parts with minor modifications.
 

As for the seats themselves, ie, the part that gets some foam cushion and upholstery, they are all the same. If you have non-fold down seat now, donít pay shipping to buy fold down seat cushions, the ones you have now will fit just fine.

A fortunate feature of 67 fastbacks is that the interior fiberglass trim panels are all the same regardless if the fastback came with a fold down seat or not.  When you are looking at 67 specific features, you can focus on the 3 carpeted panels that comprise the fold down seat, and the trap door.  Nearly everything else is the same, but don't worry, I'll show you the small stuff that is different too.


Identifying features

All of these pictures are thumb-nailed so that you can see the full resolution picture if you so choose.
 

 

This is the oval shaped seat support. This seat support will be the same from 66-70.

 

This is the front panel's stop bumper used starting in 66.  If this part is still on the seat, it is an eye catcher to distinguish the seat from a 65 style seat.

 

 

Here is a picture of the front panel's side trim used in 67.   Notice that the latch hole has 2 screw holes to either side, and that the trim is flush across the face, ie, there are no recessed areas.  This will be a distinctive feature of later seats starting in 68. 

 
 

This is of the 67 style trim installed with the metal latch guide.  Note that the metal latch guide has 3 screws, 2 that go through the seat trim and 1 that goes directly into the seat panel.

Important point:  This trim piece is not in reproduction.  The piece you see pictured is a replated original, and the company I use charges $110 per individual piece.  The metal latch guide you see pictured is also replated original.  I pay $40 each to have those replated.  The metal latch guide is cheaper to have replated than to buy new.

 
 

For comparison, here is the 65-66 style trim (top) compared to 67-68 style trim (middle) and 69-70 style trim (bottom).  Side by side the difference is very distinct if you know what to look for.

 
 

These are the latches used on 67-68 seats.  Of particular note is that these are original latches with replated original chrome sliders and reproduction knobs.  The reproduction latches do not come with chrome plated sliders.

 
 

These are the latch covers used on 67-68 with fold down seat.

 
  insert picture of rear most trim piece

67 still utilized a piece of chrome trim across the back of the rear most panel. 

 
  This is the 67 style trap door.  Note that this trap door has a 1'' trim panel that goes across the top of it.  Some of these trim panels were attached with bolts that went through the back, while others had screws that went through the trim panel itself.  
 

This particular trap door trim is attached with the bolts that go through the door.

And this is what the above parts look like assembled

 
 

This trap door has the molding across the top attached by screws through the trim piece.

 
 

This latch was used in 1967 on the bottom of the trap door.  Note that this latch has a hex shaped knob. 

 
 

This latch was also used in 1967 on the bottom of the trap door.  Note that this latch as a loop shaped handle vice the knob pictured above. 

I have not been able to determine if these were a production change, or if different plants used different latches.  I do know for a fact that factory original 1967's came with either of these latches, so either is correct.  If you have definitive information on this, please contact me and I will update this page accordingly.

 
 

The two hinges on the left are for 65-66, the hinge on the right is for 67-70.  They have slightly different profiles, but easiest identifying feature is that 65-66 has all elongated bolt holes, 67-70 has round bolt holes where it attaches to the trap door.

Better picture of the 67 style hinge

 
 

67 used this prop handle to support the trap door in the raised position.

 
 

This is how all those parts just shown mount on the trap door.  Note the fasteners across the top which old the trim piece on.

 
 

The prop handle pictured above was held in the raised position by this bracket that was welded on the passenger side of the trap door opening.  In my experience, this bracket is the hardest piece to find for a conversion, and is usually a sure sign of a factory fold down seat when you see this part in the trunk of a 67 fastback. 

 
 

Here is what that bracket looks like welded in place.

 

 
  Now that we know the easily identifiable external features for 1967, lets take a look at what they look like underneath.  For many EBay listings or swap meets, you will find these panels disassembled with no carpet and no trim. 

 

 
 

Hole is the 5/16-18 nut welded inside the frame for the stop bumper.

 

 
     
 

Close up of holes you should find in the rear panel of a 67 fold down seat. 

If you have read through any of the other year's pages, you will notice that this same feature is common to 66-70 seat panels.  So that doesn't really help much, does it.  Well, its easily identifiable and definitely saves you from being taken on a 65 piece which requires modifications to be used.  What help, however, is that starting in mid 68, the rear most chrome trim panel was no longer used and the carpet was folded over and stapled to the rear of this panel. 

Insert picture of panel with staple holes

Thus, by noting that the top of the seat panel looks like the picture above, and the rear of the panel does not have staple holes, you can narrow down a rear panel to being originally from a 66 to mid 68 car.  I have yet to find any date codes on any of these panels, so this is the best you can do for making a positive ID for 1967.

 
   

 

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